Did anyone watch Forrest Gallante on Joe Rogan?

[Hardcastle]

Field Biologist, basically Rogan's resident wildlife guy... He sucks! I swear he knows much much less than everyone on this board. Every episode he has been on I'm constantly bewildered by his stupidity.

This ep he talked about how Anacondas are the longest snake but reticulated pythons are heavier because they're much fatter.

Btw he basically says anacondas are his favourite animal and has photos of himself swimming with them and shit, but he's a total airhead.

Rogan was trying to ask about special chimps with like a "mohawk of bone" on their skull (trying to talk about the sagittal crest), Forrest confidently interjects "ahh yes so what happens is the females randomly decide they think Mohawks look cool and that's when you see start seeing these mohawks in a population".
Rogan is like "isn't it something to do with making their jaw stronger?"

Forrest - *super confused*

In the past I have seen Rogan ask him "are their hyenas in Australia?" and Forrest without missing a beat "I believe so yes". Lol, it's unreal. He's just a total fraud as far as I'm concerned, winging it by the seat of his pants, making shit up as he goes along and just hoping Joe doesn't notice, and to be fair... Joe never does, because he too is weirdly dumb when it comes to animals. For anyone, but especially for a guy who is so interested in animals and hunts and etc. Forrest is next level though because his whole thing is being "an animal expert", I know a 13 year old who doesn't even go to school that knows ten times more than him. Not even an exaggeration.

Link to the Trainwreck-

JRE - Forrest Gallante

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Never heard of him but thought you were about to recommend him, although I had my doubts reading his Wikipedia:

"outdoor adventurer, television personality, and conservationist".

Conversationists in particular are hit and miss.

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I actually really dig his Extinct or Alive show on Animal Planet. After all, he did find the Zanzibar leopard. He’s also a good herpetologist and fisherman.

I prefer Coyote Peterson though.

[Johnson]

Jan 19, 2023 12:22:39 GMT Hardcastle said:

Field Biologist, basically Rogan's resident wildlife guy... He sucks! I swear he knows much much less than everyone on this board. Every episode he has been on I'm constantly bewildered by his stupidity.

This ep he talked about how Anacondas are the longest snake but reticulated pythons are heavier because they're much fatter.

Btw he basically says anacondas are his favourite animal and has photos of himself swimming with them and shit, but he's a total airhead.

Rogan was trying to ask about special chimps with like a "mohawk of bone" on their skull (trying to talk about the sagittal crest), Forrest confidently interjects "ahh yes so what happens is the females randomly decide they think Mohawks look cool and that's when you see start seeing these mohawks in a population".
Rogan is like "isn't it something to do with making their jaw stronger?"

Forrest - *super confused*

In the past I have seen Rogan ask him "are their hyenas in Australia?" and Forrest without missing a beat "I believe so yes". Lol, it's unreal. He's just a total fraud as far as I'm concerned, winging it by the seat of his pants, making shit up as he goes along and just hoping Joe doesn't notice, and to be fair... Joe never does, because he too is weirdly dumb when it comes to animals. For anyone, but especially for a guy who is so interested in animals and hunts and etc. Forrest is next level though because his whole thing is being "an animal expert", I know a 13 year old who doesn't even go to school that knows ten times more than him. Not even an exaggeration.

Link to the Trainwreck-

JRE - Forrest Gallante

Nice to see that Dale is promoting Spotify.

Only problem is that I am not interested in signing up at the moment.

[lincoln]

Jan 19, 2023 12:22:39 GMT Hardcastle said:

Field Biologist, basically Rogan's resident wildlife guy... He sucks! I swear he knows much much less than everyone on this board. Every episode he has been on I'm constantly bewildered by his stupidity.

This ep he talked about how Anacondas are the longest snake but reticulated pythons are heavier because they're much fatter.

Btw he basically says anacondas are his favourite animal and has photos of himself swimming with them and shit, but he's a total airhead.

Rogan was trying to ask about special chimps with like a "mohawk of bone" on their skull (trying to talk about the sagittal crest), Forrest confidently interjects "ahh yes so what happens is the females randomly decide they think Mohawks look cool and that's when you see start seeing these mohawks in a population".
Rogan is like "isn't it something to do with making their jaw stronger?"

Forrest - *super confused*

In the past I have seen Rogan ask him "are their hyenas in Australia?" and Forrest without missing a beat "I believe so yes". Lol, it's unreal. He's just a total fraud as far as I'm concerned, winging it by the seat of his pants, making shit up as he goes along and just hoping Joe doesn't notice, and to be fair... Joe never does, because he too is weirdly dumb when it comes to animals. For anyone, but especially for a guy who is so interested in animals and hunts and etc. Forrest is next level though because his whole thing is being "an animal expert", I know a 13 year old who doesn't even go to school that knows ten times more than him. Not even an exaggeration.

Link to the Trainwreck-

JRE - Forrest Gallante

Bro, how you gonna say that about my hero? Lol. He has said he is often confused with what Joe is saying and just says something to move on the conversation

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Forrest also has a YouTube channel called the “Wild Times Podcast”.

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I watched his ''extinct or alive'' or whatever show. It was entertaining because he genuinely did find some shit, but I never really listened to him. The podcasts entertained me but I retained none of the information for good reason.

[Hardcastle]

I haven't seen his shows, they may be entertaining.

I think that's the problem though, I get the impression he wanted to be a famous guy, and then, blindfolded, threw a dart at a wall of subjects, landed on animals and shrugged like "ok, that'll do". Could have been cars or cooking or flipping houses or whatever, he didn't think it was that important.

That's sincerely the impression I get, he just so regularly and frequently doesn't know basic things about animals and then he's like "have you heard of the candiru? It's a fish that swims into your dick", yes, we know dude, we all know about the dumb dick fish and you've talked about it before. He's trying to get by on a handful of little interesting facts, and maybe just being a TV presenter zip-lining through the amazon or whatever that would be fine, but man does it get exposed when he has these long-form conversations with Joe Rogan. Rogan doesn't expose him because he knows fuck all as well, that's how it works. Rogan is trying to learn about animals from him and it's two idiots that know nothing.

Joe's hunting buddy, Steve Rinella, is ten times the knowledgeable naturalist that Forrest is (although, Joe has other hunting buddies who have zero knowledge to a scary level, like clearly they only want to murder and random animals they know nothing about will have to do - Cam Haynes a great example of that).

I don't even mind Forrest's interest in cryptozoology, I think it's fine to suspend disbelief and entertain these ideas in a way that aligns with real natural history, but he can't even do that right. Joe is like "what is that Hobbit thing called? That homo flesi... assis?", Forrest - "I don't know, sounds right yeah". You should fucking know dude. That's your whole thing that you're supposed to be an expert about. It's ok to sometimes say you don't know, in a way it's admirable to be honest and just be like "hey, that's a blindspot for me, I haven't really looked into the tree frog diversity in Bolivia" (or whatever - I will do this readily from time to time myself), but with him it's just non stop, one thing after another where he's just way off, often on really well known basic things, and it's often even subjects HE brings up. Like on this recent episode parasitic wasps, he excitedly decides to talk about, and then clearly gets their effects on hosts mixed up with flukes and parasitic fungai and then kind of slowly realises he's not sure and visibly regrets talking about it. But that's the thing, when he brought it up he was so cocksure and almost condescending like he's an expert about to explain to simple village folk all about the complex lives of parasitic wasps. Then it turns out he doesn't actually know anything.

I dunno, the word that keeps springing to mind is "fraud". Total fraud.

Contrast him with Steve Irwin, who was also a dumb guy, BUT he sincerely was passionate about animals and dedicated every single one of his limited IQ points to knowing everything he could about the natural world and animals. The fact he was on TV was just a small side detail he wasn't that interested in. He'd be doing the wildlife stuff anyway, his genuine real passion for animals couldn't be contained and shined through. For Forrest you can tell TV, being famous, is the whole point.

I'm not thrilled about Coyote Peterson either, tbh. I don't know as much about him, but I get the feeling he's in it for the clout and sensation of being some wild hero doing wacky stuff, rather than sincerely earnestly passionate about animals. Could be wrong.

David Attenborough started like these guys. He was an adventurer sailing around the world and discovering new finch species in the Galapogas and making first contact with remote tribes and etc etc. Hard to imagine now but he started as like a "wild man" "Rockstar" naturalist going on crazy adventures.



But man, the levels and layers above these other guys (Including Steve Irwin, just way smarter, but at least Irwin is honest and authentic)... he is just immensely superior and his insight and analysis into animals and the thorough depth of his knowledge is many many many magnitudes higher.

I'd recommend you guys watch his older stuff, don't buy into this idea that "newer = better", it's unreal how much this stuff has deteriorated and declined. I truly consider us, all of us, more knowledgeable about animals than Forrest Gallante.

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I get the feeling he's in it for the clout and sensation of being some wild hero doing wacky stuff

I think he fakes his insect sting reactions, another YouTuber “Jack’s World of Wildlife” has gotten stung by most of the same bugs and doesn’t exaggerate nearly as much.

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There was another animal planet show “Expedition Mungo” where the host searched for cryptids. The one notable episode is the one where he concluded the Namibian “dog-headed pig monster” was a brown hyena.

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Jan 19, 2023 22:11:56 GMT Hardcastle said:

I haven't seen his shows, they may be entertaining.

I think that's the problem though, I get the impression he wanted to be a famous guy, and then, blindfolded, threw a dart at a wall of subjects, landed on animals and shrugged like "ok, that'll do". Could have been cars or cooking or flipping houses or whatever, he didn't think it was that important.

That's sincerely the impression I get, he just so regularly and frequently doesn't know basic things about animals and then he's like "have you heard of the candiru? It's a fish that swims into your dick", yes, we know dude, we all know about the dumb dick fish and you've talked about it before. He's trying to get by on a handful of little interesting facts, and maybe just being a TV presenter zip-lining through the amazon or whatever that would be fine, but man does it get exposed when he has these long-form conversations with Joe Rogan. Rogan doesn't expose him because he knows fuck all as well, that's how it works. Rogan is trying to learn about animals from him and it's two idiots that know nothing.

Joe's hunting buddy, Steve Rinella, is ten times the knowledgeable naturalist that Forrest is (although, Joe has other hunting buddies who have zero knowledge to a scary level, like clearly they only want to murder and random animals they know nothing about will have to do - Cam Haynes a great example of that).

I don't even mind Forrest's interest in cryptozoology, I think it's fine to suspend disbelief and entertain these ideas in a way that aligns with real natural history, but he can't even do that right. Joe is like "what is that Hobbit thing called? That homo flesi... assis?", Forrest - "I don't know, sounds right yeah". You should fucking know dude. That's your whole thing that you're supposed to be an expert about. It's ok to sometimes say you don't know, in a way it's admirable to be honest and just be like "hey, that's a blindspot for me, I haven't really looked into the tree frog diversity in Bolivia" (or whatever - I will do this readily from time to time myself), but with him it's just non stop, one thing after another where he's just way off, often on really well known basic things, and it's often even subjects HE brings up. Like on this recent episode parasitic wasps, he excitedly decides to talk about, and then clearly gets their effects on hosts mixed up with flukes and parasitic fungai and then kind of slowly realises he's not sure and visibly regrets talking about it. But that's the thing, when he brought it up he was so cocksure and almost condescending like he's an expert about to explain to simple village folk all about the complex lives of parasitic wasps. Then it turns out he doesn't actually know anything.

I dunno, the word that keeps springing to mind is "fraud". Total fraud.

Contrast him with Steve Irwin, who was also a dumb guy, BUT he sincerely was passionate about animals and dedicated every single one of his limited IQ points to knowing everything he could about the natural world and animals. The fact he was on TV was just a small side detail he wasn't that interested in. He'd be doing the wildlife stuff anyway, his genuine real passion for animals couldn't be contained and shined through. For Forrest you can tell TV, being famous, is the whole point.

I'm not thrilled about Coyote Peterson either, tbh. I don't know as much about him, but I get the feeling he's in it for the clout and sensation of being some wild hero doing wacky stuff, rather than sincerely earnestly passionate about animals. Could be wrong.

David Attenborough started like these guys. He was an adventurer sailing around the world and discovering new finch species in the Galapogas and making first contact with remote tribes and etc etc. Hard to imagine now but he started as like a "wild man" "Rockstar" naturalist going on crazy adventures.



But man, the levels and layers above these other guys (Including Steve Irwin, just way smarter, but at least Irwin is honest and authentic)... he is just immensely superior and his insight and analysis into animals and the thorough depth of his knowledge is many many many magnitudes higher.

I'd recommend you guys watch his older stuff, don't buy into this idea that "newer = better", it's unreal how much this stuff has deteriorated and declined. I truly consider us, all of us, more knowledgeable about animals than Forrest Gallante.

I read the first few chapters of Forrest’s book but he just rubs me the wrong way.

[Hardcastle]

Jan 19, 2023 16:35:43 GMT Johnson said:

Jan 19, 2023 12:22:39 GMT Hardcastle said:

Field Biologist, basically Rogan's resident wildlife guy... He sucks! I swear he knows much much less than everyone on this board. Every episode he has been on I'm constantly bewildered by his stupidity.

This ep he talked about how Anacondas are the longest snake but reticulated pythons are heavier because they're much fatter.

Btw he basically says anacondas are his favourite animal and has photos of himself swimming with them and shit, but he's a total airhead.

Rogan was trying to ask about special chimps with like a "mohawk of bone" on their skull (trying to talk about the sagittal crest), Forrest confidently interjects "ahh yes so what happens is the females randomly decide they think Mohawks look cool and that's when you see start seeing these mohawks in a population".
Rogan is like "isn't it something to do with making their jaw stronger?"

Forrest - *super confused*

In the past I have seen Rogan ask him "are their hyenas in Australia?" and Forrest without missing a beat "I believe so yes". Lol, it's unreal. He's just a total fraud as far as I'm concerned, winging it by the seat of his pants, making shit up as he goes along and just hoping Joe doesn't notice, and to be fair... Joe never does, because he too is weirdly dumb when it comes to animals. For anyone, but especially for a guy who is so interested in animals and hunts and etc. Forrest is next level though because his whole thing is being "an animal expert", I know a 13 year old who doesn't even go to school that knows ten times more than him. Not even an exaggeration.

Link to the Trainwreck-

JRE - Forrest Gallante

Nice to see that Dale is promoting Spotify.

Only problem is that I am not interested in signing up at the moment.

Well I recently cancelled my spotify subscription, but you can still use it, it's just vaguely more annoying.

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Jan 19, 2023 22:15:55 GMT @hammerhead said:

I get the feeling he's in it for the clout and sensation of being some wild hero doing wacky stuff

I think he fakes his insect sting reactions, another YouTuber “Jack’s World of Wildlife” has gotten stung by most of the same bugs and doesn’t exaggerate nearly as much.

Remember the "GUUUUH, I CANT MOVE MY ARM, AAAH" from a fucking wasp? Lol.
I think he is sort of a 50/50 split between animal guy and entertainer.

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Jan 20, 2023 2:12:52 GMT Bolushi said:

Jan 19, 2023 22:15:55 GMT @hammerhead said:

I think he fakes his insect sting reactions, another YouTuber “Jack’s World of Wildlife” has gotten stung by most of the same bugs and doesn’t exaggerate nearly as much.

Remember the "GUUUUH, I CANT MOVE MY ARM, AAAH" from a fucking wasp? Lol.
I think he is sort of a 50/50 split between animal guy and entertainer.

I think there is some merit, that was the tarantula hawk which paralyzes tarantulas for its larvae. I think he does it mostly for views though and he went to film school, he didn’t study biology.

[Hardcastle]

You guys could follow in their foot steps, just get bitten by things and exaggerate horribly on youtube. Maybe get bitten on more entertaining body parts like your nuts or your asshole.

"guuuh.... my asshole is burning!! It's swelling up! NNNGGHHHH!!" *rolls around on the ground clutching back of pants*.