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Post by Hardcastle on Aug 19, 2023 5:54:42 GMT
Shin chimes in with this- lol ok? So its negatively effecting both Lynx and Fishers, and then fishers are killing and eating lynx. "no it doesn't count because the lynx was depressed about the declining snow shoe hare populations, the fisher was angry about the declining snow shoe hare populations, that's an unfair fight, sad vs angry... nah, no good". To be fair, fishers are generalist predators compared to hare specialists like lynx. While they do feel a mild effect, it is not as severe as the effect on lynx populations. Lynx actually get weaker in comparison to fisher. That being said, mustelids are more formidable than most of the small felines. The only exception might be the clouded leopard. Technically there's basically ALWAYS a reason why one wild animal successfully kills another in any given moment, but I've never seen people suddenly become so nuanced in their understanding of these complex dynamics as when a cat's reputation is on the line. Lol. And then so oblivious and blind to them at any other time. Its honestly impressive. I'd also offset this somewhat by noting that mustelids have the highest metabolism and lowest tolerance for fasting out of all carnivores. They HAVE to eat multiple times a day, Lynx don't. Given everything, and most importantly the fact fishers are half the size of lynxes, it definitely does not bode well for lynxes that Fishers are regularly murking them. It suggests there's a huge difference in fundamental ability. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Aug 19, 2023 7:13:25 GMT
Shin chimes in with this- lol ok? So its negatively effecting both Lynx and Fishers, and then fishers are killing and eating lynx. "no it doesn't count because the lynx was depressed about the declining snow shoe hare populations, the fisher was angry about the declining snow shoe hare populations, that's an unfair fight, sad vs angry... nah, no good". To be fair, fishers are generalist predators compared to hare specialists like lynx. While they do feel a mild effect, it is not as severe as the effect on lynx populations. Lynx actually get weaker in comparison to fisher. That being said, mustelids are more formidable than most of the small felines. The only exception might be the clouded leopard. Komododo aint buying it, think he would know-  |
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Post by CoolJohnson on Aug 19, 2023 19:11:47 GMT
To be fair, fishers are generalist predators compared to hare specialists like lynx. While they do feel a mild effect, it is not as severe as the effect on lynx populations. Lynx actually get weaker in comparison to fisher. That being said, mustelids are more formidable than most of the small felines. The only exception might be the clouded leopard. Komododo aint buying it, think he would know- Lynx are still noted to get weaker during snowshoe hare decline.  source: Kuehn, D. W. (1989). Winter Foods of Fishers during a Snowshoe Hare Decline. The Journal of Wildlife Management, 53(3), 688–692. doi.org/10.2307/3809198"When hares become scarce, lynx numbers also decline. Their lack of fat reserves makes them less able to live through starvation and cold temperatures. Food shortages also cause behavioural changes such as increased roaming and loss of caution. This increases their vulnerability to predation.
Malnourishment has the most significant effect upon lynx reproduction and population levels. When females are in poor condition, fewer breed and not all of those bred produce litters. Litters are smaller, and most, if not all, of the few kittens born die soon after birth. This means that for a period of three to five years, few or no kittens survive to adulthood. Studies have shown the level of kittens in a lynx population may be zero at the population low and as high as 60 percent when their numbers increase. Low lynx population levels last for three or four years. When hares become plentiful again, the lynx population begins to increase as well." www.gov.nt.ca/ecc/en/services/lynx/lynx-snowshoe-hare-cycle#:~:text=When%20hares%20become%20scarce%2C%20lynx,increases%20their%20vulnerability%20to%20predation. Once again, I do agree that a fisher should be able to kill a healthy Canadian lynx. It is just that they are less likely put up a fight during the snowshoe hare decline. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Aug 20, 2023 0:43:42 GMT
Komododo continues to absolutely BBQ carnivora on the fisher vs lynx. Just gets worse and worse for the cat fans. The ambush excuse (the irony) was obliterated with multiple cases that specifically mention the fisher chasing a fleeing lynx before actually catching it and killing it, and then another case that talks about a 9 month old lynx being killed actually mentions it was killed "with it's mother", so essentially 1 fisher killed 2 lynx at once, both severely outweighing the fisher and zero chance that at least one of them was ambushed.
Bravo to Komododo, haven't seen someone rattle the carnivora cage, aka catfan echo chamber, like this for many years. Wonder when they will be banned?
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Post by Bolushi on Aug 20, 2023 6:05:12 GMT
Komododo continues to absolutely BBQ carnivora on the fisher vs lynx. Just gets worse and worse for the cat fans. The ambush excuse (the irony) was obliterated with multiple cases that specifically mention the fisher chasing a fleeing lynx before actually catching it and killing it, and then another case that talks about a 9 month old lynx being killed actually mentions it was killed "with it's mother", so essentially 1 fisher killed 2 lynx at once, both severely outweighing the fisher and zero chance that at least one of them was ambushed. Bravo to Komododo, haven't seen someone rattle the carnivora cage, aka catfan echo chamber, like this for many years. Wonder when they will be banned? Komododo is a smart guy, and smart guys are good at torching forums full of juvenile retards. Could only imagine how absurdly powerful he could be if he managed to figure out TFC and Bestiary exists. |
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Post by CoolJohnson on Aug 20, 2023 8:49:08 GMT
Komododo continues to absolutely BBQ carnivora on the fisher vs lynx. Just gets worse and worse for the cat fans. The ambush excuse (the irony) was obliterated with multiple cases that specifically mention the fisher chasing a fleeing lynx before actually catching it and killing it, and then another case that talks about a 9 month old lynx being killed actually mentions it was killed "with it's mother", so essentially 1 fisher killed 2 lynx at once, both severely outweighing the fisher and zero chance that at least one of them was ambushed. Bravo to Komododo, haven't seen someone rattle the carnivora cage, aka catfan echo chamber, like this for many years. Wonder when they will be banned? ApexBoy seems to agree a bit with Komodo on wolverine durability. carnivora.net/clouded-leopard-v-wolverine-t4005-s585.html#p267018 |
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Post by Hardcastle on Aug 20, 2023 9:19:25 GMT
Komododo continues to absolutely BBQ carnivora on the fisher vs lynx. Just gets worse and worse for the cat fans. The ambush excuse (the irony) was obliterated with multiple cases that specifically mention the fisher chasing a fleeing lynx before actually catching it and killing it, and then another case that talks about a 9 month old lynx being killed actually mentions it was killed "with it's mother", so essentially 1 fisher killed 2 lynx at once, both severely outweighing the fisher and zero chance that at least one of them was ambushed. Bravo to Komododo, haven't seen someone rattle the carnivora cage, aka catfan echo chamber, like this for many years. Wonder when they will be banned? ApexBoy seems to agree a bit with Komodo on wolverine durability. carnivora.net/clouded-leopard-v-wolverine-t4005-s585.html#p267018Your hero Apexboy... Why aren't you on Carnivora? |
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Post by Bolushi on Aug 20, 2023 9:59:38 GMT
Your hero Apexboy... Why aren't you on Carnivora? That can be interpreted in more ways than one. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Aug 20, 2023 10:34:31 GMT
I still kind of low key think CoolJohnson IS Apexboy, that's all I'm alluding to. Probably not, but if not seriously why wouldn't you be on carnivora?
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Post by CoolJohnson on Aug 21, 2023 1:36:11 GMT
I still kind of low key think CoolJohnson IS Apexboy, that's all I'm alluding to. Probably not, but if not seriously why wouldn't you be on carnivora? I am on reddit and wildanimalwarfare. I usually avoid forums due to a) Getting distracted iwith many posts b) Eventually get bored on that forum. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Aug 21, 2023 11:53:17 GMT
I still kind of low key think CoolJohnson IS Apexboy, that's all I'm alluding to. Probably not, but if not seriously why wouldn't you be on carnivora? I am on reddit and wildanimalwarfare. I usually avoid forums due to a) Getting distracted iwith many posts b) Eventually get bored on that forum. Fair enough. You are just a mysterious enigmatic man I guess. I'm gleefully elated with the progress of the ongoing multi-thread fisher vs lynx debate. 8Avian8 is getting pummelled and reemed out harder than Logan Paul's fiancé. Komododo finished him off in Canadian lynx vs fisher page 5- link so much so he had to admit defeat, and then warsaw moved in and stomped on his dead bones. Gloriously satisfying.  If you ever read this- 8Avian8, Espinola, DuriaAntiquior, Euchambersia to some extent- I just want you to know- HAHA. eat shit. Drop dead. Ha. |
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Post by Hardcastle on Aug 21, 2023 17:55:24 GMT
Now Avian is begging warsaw to please leave the thread, with a straight face and no hint of comedic awareness or shame.
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Post by Hardcastle on Aug 23, 2023 6:52:34 GMT
Imagine still posting on carnivora, lol.
It's like the special olympics at this point. Bestiary and FC are just so many tiers above.
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Post by Hardcastle on Aug 23, 2023 10:43:39 GMT
Found this interesting graph on a scientific website-  |
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Post by Bolushi on Aug 25, 2023 0:23:15 GMT
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