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Post by Hardcastle on Apr 13, 2023 5:57:00 GMT
Ok so it might seem weird that I keep changing the phylogenetic chart, but note within this one scientific study they change it 9 times, and admit it's kind of open ended and speculative. linkI've made one last (heh, probably not) phylogenetic chart of canidae, this does not clash with the final one from the above study that they settled on, but it DOES modify some minor details in accordance with various little clues I have independently found which I believe were missed in the above study. I believe it is probably the most correct phylogenetic chart for canidae that currently exists.
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Post by Hardcastle on Aug 27, 2023 7:22:32 GMT
New try at Canid phylogeny, this time with a timeline, and more painstaking research. The reason they are often different is it is still hotly contested and debated, different scientists have different theories and its just not settled at all. This time I looked at the actual data they are looking at and then used my own learned intuition to fill in the gaps. I feel like I'm getting closer than maybe anyone has. But there are still no doubt mistakes, for sure. It is an ongoing process probably for the rest of my lifetime. It is odd how different the alternate theories can be, but I think I've ruled out some really illogical ones. Note that most lupus sub-species would tuck in between lupus lupus and dingo, and you'd need a microscope. They are a that recent. A few tuck in between pallipes and lupus lupus. A lot of "jackal-esque" grey wolves. This really show cases how wolves are really jackals only very recently trying their hand at being "big boys". Through history canids have repeatedly divided into big guys and sneaky little guys first with Borphaginae and Leptocyon. Then leptocyon itself split into various foxes and jackals, and jackals would split into smaller and bigger jackals, and jackals and hunting dogs. The big hunting dog Chihliensis likely spelt the doom of the borophaginae lineage not just by being big and formidable but also highly organised super predators. Chihliensis branched out into multiple takes on big game hunting dogs; armbruster, xenocyon, aenocyon, lycaon and cuon, while canis were content on being various takes on jackals sneaking about, but the fall of xenocyon and aenocyon would open a niche for a lineage of canis jackals to try their hand at being hunting dogs, and that brought us the timberwolf. Notice most wolves are still actually jackals in nature and proportion, even most grey wolves of the lupus species (himalyan, indian, italian, etc). The actual big game pack hunting wolf only emerged in eurasia after the fall of xenocyon, then moved into america and possibly contributed to the fall of aenocyon. I like to think of the modern grey wolf as a jackal for this reason, but a "Lord of the Jackals".
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