Who would win in a fight? (responding to Hezigod PM)

[Hardcastle]

Jul 1, 2023 8:03:32 GMT hezigod848 said:

Who would win in a fight against a Bully Kutta with a maximum height 37-38 inches and weight of 85-90 kg,apart from his innate fighting ability,gets additional training for fighting and becomes an even better fighter,along the way he also trains for hunting,guard and attack,and what % would he have against a Black Panther, Puma,the strongest species of Wolf,Persian Leopard?Bully Kutta with height between 37-38 inches and weight between 85-90 kg and on top of his fighting power gets training to fight,guard,attack and hunt and full size,then who would win the fight,who would have higher percentage?

I have mixed feelings about the Bully Kutta, which is true for most (or dare I say all) breeds.

What the bully kutta represents is a colonial bloodhound. Not to be confused with "the bloodhound" of kennel club fame, a totally different beast. In many respects the most formidable and deadly domestic dog ever created, the largest functional predatory working dog ever concieved (in working form weighed at least 130 lbs and up to 180 lbs - at a time when "bullmastiffs" weighed around 60 lbs), and the most notoriously dangerous and formidable dog anyone had ever heard about in the 1800s (apbts were considered "cute" friends for children at that time). It was considered a genuine "man eater" and would be bred into hunting dog lineages to make them more powerful and formidable against dangerous exotic wild animals that might prey on hunting dogs if they didn't have bloodhound admixture.
It was intentionally eradicated in the early 1900s before world war 1 specifically because it was deemed impractical for it to exist in civilised society. It was the first dog "banned" due to how dangerous it was (earlier dogs had been banned for their propensity to mate with the wolf or dingo, or for weird religious or political reasons)

The surviving relics that descend from this dog are the fila brasileiro and the bully kutta, but like all pure breeds they have really deteriorated tremendously and rarely would be fit to qualify as a legit working colonial bloodhound from the 1800s. One could argue Ohalloran hounds, tosas, midgard mastiffs and bullwolfhounds are more like modern working bloodhounds. And yes, MAYBE the rare good BK as well.

Many BKs however, seem as bad or worse than great danes. Very sloppy, poorly balanced, uncoordinated and cumbersome. A hazard one will run into breeding dogs of that size unless the performance breeding is extremely ruthless and cutthroat.

Even a bad BK might provide a very difficult challenge for these wild animals, however. They are never the less extremely large (can be even larger than their genuine working ancestors) and powerful to match. Durable, with robust bones and thick protective shifting skin. They can stare a mackenzie wolf right in the eyes and monster it in the grapple fairly easily. However, these bad BKs will struggle to keep up with the agility and reflexes of a wolf, and do risk taking damaging snaps and slashes from an evasive wolf that uses footwork. Still it seems inevitable the wolf will usually be eventually grabbed, and then it is totally doomed. I'd say the BK would win 80% of the time.

A very large full grown male leopard is probably going to be too proportionately powerful for it's size, and too fast. That's what I THINK, but I don't know for sure, there is still the very real risk of the leopard failing it's initial assault and then having a very hard time with the unrelenting counter attack of it's powerful foe.

A very large male puma is basically the same. I probably consider the leopard slightly more dangerous, I think, though there are good arguments against that idea (especially those of PumAcinonyx SuperCat). Either way I think I would give the cats a 60% advantage. We're talking 90 kg vs 90 kg. As the adversaries get smaller, that percentage goes down and ultimately flips to favour the dog. With a very serious extinct colonial bloodhound I think it would switch to favouring the dog at 75 kg, just, and then at 60 kgs I think there are modern dogs of this type that can beat a 60 kg adult male leopard/puma more often than not.