Eurasian Wolf VS American Staghound

[Musth]

American Staghound, Male, 102lbs





VS


Eurasian Wolf, Male 81lbs

[Bolushi]

Staghound crunches the wolf's neck after tiring it out with evasive maneuvers.

[Hardcastle]

Fixed your pics...

With those weights I'd favour the stag. Still hazardous and risky. Wolf could land a bad crunching snap but I think the stag would take its throat more often.

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idk the staghound's bigger so it wins

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[Musth]

I agree. The Stag should win but it is risky and the wolf could win as well. I believe a sighthound is gonna need a weight and size advantage to be able to beat a wolf. At parity or wolf is larger it wins, and your gonna need a couple of sighthounds to course the wolf properly
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[Hardcastle]

May 24, 2023 22:45:21 GMT Musth said:

I agree. The Stag should win but it is risky and the wolf could win as well. I believe a sighthound is gonna need a weight and size advantage to be able to beat a wolf. At parity or wolf is larger it wins, and your gonna need a couple of sighthounds to course the wolf properly
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Yeah I pretty much agree, but depends on where we draw the line on "sighthound". Galgo patagonico I'd favour over a wolf at parity, and maritsane. Any kind of working "wolfhound" type. 1/4 bull lurchers as well (which is probably what wolfhound types fundamentally are). But greyhounds, staghounds, deerhounds, borzois etc, the true elite speed "pure-ish" sighthounds probably need a size advantage, are certainly very vulnerable and at very high risk.

[Bolushi]

May 24, 2023 22:59:24 GMT Hardcastle said:

May 24, 2023 22:45:21 GMT Musth said:

I agree. The Stag should win but it is risky and the wolf could win as well. I believe a sighthound is gonna need a weight and size advantage to be able to beat a wolf. At parity or wolf is larger it wins, and your gonna need a couple of sighthounds to course the wolf properly
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Yeah I pretty much agree, but depends on where we draw the line on "sighthound". Galgo patagonico I'd favour over a wolf at parity, and maritsane. Any kind of working "wolfhound" type. 1/4 bull lurchers as well (which is probably what wolfhound types fundamentally are). But greyhounds, staghounds, deerhounds, borzois etc, the true elite speed "pure-ish" sighthounds probably need a size advantage, are certainly very vulnerable and at very high risk.

Ehh, I'm not sure. I think some staghounds would beat some wolves at parity. Perhaps a staghound working as a pig dog would be best suited and pull out a win against a wolf most of the time.
A Galgo Patagonico/Maritsane is overkill to me.

[Musth]

May 24, 2023 22:59:24 GMT Hardcastle said:

May 24, 2023 22:45:21 GMT Musth said:

I agree. The Stag should win but it is risky and the wolf could win as well. I believe a sighthound is gonna need a weight and size advantage to be able to beat a wolf. At parity or wolf is larger it wins, and your gonna need a couple of sighthounds to course the wolf properly
.

Yeah I pretty much agree, but depends on where we draw the line on "sighthound". Galgo patagonico I'd favour over a wolf at parity, and maritsane. Any kind of working "wolfhound" type. 1/4 bull lurchers as well (which is probably what wolfhound types fundamentally are). But greyhounds, staghounds, deerhounds, borzois etc, the true elite speed "pure-ish" sighthounds probably need a size advantage, are certainly very vulnerable and at very high risk.

I definitely agree with almost anything with bull in it I would favour over a wolf at parity. Galgo look impressive actually what brought me and how I found this forum by reading a breed profile on them. They almost look more of a boardog than a sighthound, but other still look speedy. 

Honestky I would rate Maristanes on the same level as good American Staghounds. A good American staghound will be built just like a Maristane and be the same size. And honestly most Maristanes work Jackals which are much smaller and weaker than coyotes. Yes I have heard of the rumours of taking down bigger game. But even if so I do think an American staghound would have the same performances as a maristane on bigger game. I’m on a Facebook group of African boergreys and even the odd maristane for sale. I have yet to see one or even a breeder or line of dogs which focuses on hyenas or baboons. I’m also not on there very often so it could have missed me. 

Im not saying they are not capable of those quarry(they are). I’m just saying I haven’t seen them bred specifically for those quarry. To me they aren’t that much different than American staghounds. 

Unless if there is a breeder or line that specifically goes after hyena and baboon that I’m not aware of.

[Hardcastle]

May 24, 2023 23:49:15 GMT Musth said:

May 24, 2023 22:59:24 GMT Hardcastle said:

Yeah I pretty much agree, but depends on where we draw the line on "sighthound". Galgo patagonico I'd favour over a wolf at parity, and maritsane. Any kind of working "wolfhound" type. 1/4 bull lurchers as well (which is probably what wolfhound types fundamentally are). But greyhounds, staghounds, deerhounds, borzois etc, the true elite speed "pure-ish" sighthounds probably need a size advantage, are certainly very vulnerable and at very high risk.

I definitely agree with almost anything with bull in it I would favour over a wolf at parity. Galgo look impressive actually what brought me and how I found this forum by reading a breed profile on them. They almost look more of a boardog than a sighthound, but other still look speedy. 

Honestky I would rate Maristanes on the same level as good American Staghounds. A good American staghound will be built just like a Maristane and be the same size. And honestly most Maristanes work Jackals which are much smaller and weaker than coyotes. Yes I have heard of the rumours of taking down bigger game. But even if so I do think an American staghound would have the same performances as a maristane on bigger game. I’m on a Facebook group of African boergreys and even the odd maristane for sale. I have yet to see one or even a breeder or line of dogs which focuses on hyenas or baboons. I’m also not on there very often so it could have missed me. 

Im not saying they are not capable of those quarry(they are). I’m just saying I haven’t seen them bred specifically for those quarry. To me they aren’t that much different than American staghounds. 

Unless if there is a breeder or line that specifically goes after hyena and baboon that I’m not aware of.

My understanding of maritsane, which is only going off probably the same scant clues everyone else has, is they are primarily meant for hyenas, bushpig, warthogs and larger heavier antelope species. Boergreys of course being ample for jackals and even handling warthogs as well a lot of the time.

They just look like a heavier "wolfhound" design, basically the same as galgo patagonicos and the odd wolfhound/stag type used in Australia. Their build basically looks exactly what I think legit wolfhounds were before dying out and being recreated, and those wolfhounds were of course used on wolves, boars and red deer stags. Looks to my eye like a dog well suited to beat a wolf.

[Hardcastle]

May 24, 2023 23:29:49 GMT Bolushi said:

May 24, 2023 22:59:24 GMT Hardcastle said:

Yeah I pretty much agree, but depends on where we draw the line on "sighthound". Galgo patagonico I'd favour over a wolf at parity, and maritsane. Any kind of working "wolfhound" type. 1/4 bull lurchers as well (which is probably what wolfhound types fundamentally are). But greyhounds, staghounds, deerhounds, borzois etc, the true elite speed "pure-ish" sighthounds probably need a size advantage, are certainly very vulnerable and at very high risk.

Ehh, I'm not sure. I think some staghounds would beat some wolves at parity. Perhaps a staghound working as a pig dog would be best suited and pull out a win against a wolf most of the time.
A Galgo Patagonico/Maritsane is overkill to me.

Some staghounds could pull it off, like Samuel White Baker talks about the stag that could lug any boar and kill any stag just due to having an uncanny knack to go straight in like a bulldog and get the throat every time, a special stag could beat a wolf, but just a normal stag would be at great risk of being snapped and most would probably even bay on a big scary wolf. I think GPs and Maritsane are JUST right (and that type should be considered wolfhounds), and then proper boarhounds and Bulldogs are overkill, especially once embroiled in close combat, but may even be at greater risk before that engagement is achieved, have difficulty securing the catch, hence why wolfhounds are wolfhounds.

[Hardcastle]

May 24, 2023 23:49:15 GMT Musth said:

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Btw musth, what is all this stuff supposed to be? Some kind of signature or what?

[Musth]

May 25, 2023 6:23:08 GMT Hardcastle said:

May 24, 2023 23:49:15 GMT Musth said:

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Btw musth, what is all this stuff supposed to be? Some kind of signature or what?

I have absolutely no idea I switched internet browsers and now every time I make a post it has a whole bunch of encrypted texts shit. Just gonna switch back to safari and see if that helps I guess. Even if I go back and edit it to delete it it won’t. 

Edit: just deleted it on safari and worked.

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It's HTML.

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May 24, 2023 21:36:26 GMT Musth said:

American Staghound, Male, 102lbs





VS


Eurasian Wolf, Male 81lbs

I believe the Stag would win against a smaller Eurasian wolf.

But keep in mind the thread doesn’t realize, hunting wolves are leagues above hunting coyotes. Coyotes give up fighting when they realize they’re outnumbered by a huge pack of wolves or dogs. Wolves don’t. They’ll fight to the death and use anything they can if they’re lone, whether they win or not.

I’d actually say due to its a Eurasian I don’t disagree much, and the stag there could definitely be evasive. Giving the stag the upper hand.

But if this was a Northwestern wolf the issue would be the wolf would be too large and slow and the stag would be too fast, it would be like warfare. But the Northwestern wolf could also overpower the stag.

So, going with stag.

[Bolushi]

May 25, 2023 16:51:17 GMT Wyatt said:

May 24, 2023 21:36:26 GMT Musth said:

American Staghound, Male, 102lbs





VS


Eurasian Wolf, Male 81lbs

I believe the Stag would win against a smaller Eurasian wolf.

But keep in mind the thread doesn’t realize, hunting wolves are leagues above hunting coyotes. Coyotes give up fighting when they realize they’re outnumbered by a huge pack of wolves or dogs. Wolves don’t. They’ll fight to the death and use anything they can if they’re lone, whether they win or not.

I’d actually say due to its a Eurasian I don’t disagree much, and the stag there could definitely be evasive. Giving the stag the upper hand.

But if this was a Northwestern wolf the issue would be the wolf would be too large and slow and the stag would be too fast, it would be like warfare. But the Northwestern wolf could also overpower the stag.

So, going with stag.

A wolf or coyote is used to especially shitty situations and if coyotes were masochists they would not be around. If a coyote is shot and surrounded by 8 blueticks, 7 plotthounds and 3 oorang strain airedale terriers it will do whatever possible to try and live. So will wolves. Weird idea you pulled out of somewhere...