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Post by ophio on May 23, 2023 15:28:25 GMT
Max weight 100 pounds. All battles on land
Snow leopard Florida panther
Russian wolf Dogo argentino
Brown hyena Reticulated python
Sun bear Chimpanzee
Any other suggestions?
I feel it'll overlap a lot with the 150 pound bracket.
Which i tentatively have a field of
Persian leopard Cougar Northwestern wolf Spotted hyena Some sorta dog idk yet Retic again? Andean bear Freshwater crocodile?
Open to suggestions for the middleweight bracket as well
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2023 15:51:08 GMT
Dogs are slowly running out of weighty-ness.
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Post by ophio on May 23, 2023 16:26:09 GMT
We could merge the two in a 125 pound bracket considering they overlap a lot
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2023 21:23:48 GMT
We could merge the two in a 125 pound bracket considering they overlap a lot Up to you. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk
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Post by Bolushi on May 23, 2023 22:03:47 GMT
Max weight 100 pounds. All battles on land Snow leopard Florida panther Russian wolf Dogo argentino Brown hyena Reticulated python Sun bear Chimpanzee Any other suggestions? I feel it'll overlap a lot with the 150 pound bracket. Which i tentatively have a field of Persian leopard Cougar Northwestern wolf Spotted hyena Some sorta dog idk yet Retic again? Andean bear Freshwater crocodile? Open to suggestions for the middleweight bracket as well Can we add the Boergrey to 100lbs? If you want to replace the Dogo with Boergrey then just use the Maritsane strain of Boergrey. Though I'd like to keep both. Maybe even replace Dogo with Alano Espanol. Bully Kutta sounds good for the 150lb bracket.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2023 22:16:30 GMT
The snake should be an African Rock Python. If it's a Reticulated Python, then there's only one snake left; the Green Anaconda. This would mean that no snake would be above middleweight - while, in reality, both the Retic' and the 'conda could contend in size with large cats like Jaguars and Lions.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2023 22:18:24 GMT
Max weight 100 pounds. All battles on land Snow leopard Florida panther Russian wolf Dogo argentino Brown hyena Reticulated python Sun bear Chimpanzee Any other suggestions? I feel it'll overlap a lot with the 150 pound bracket. Which i tentatively have a field of Persian leopard Cougar Northwestern wolf Spotted hyena Some sorta dog idk yet Retic again? Andean bear Freshwater crocodile? Open to suggestions for the middleweight bracket as well No not Retic' again. There are other large snakes - Yellow Anaconda, Burmese Python and African Rock Python. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk
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Post by Musth on May 23, 2023 23:59:04 GMT
Should have 100lbs, 125lbs 150lbs and 150lbs and up
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Post by ophio on May 24, 2023 0:51:42 GMT
Should have 100lbs, 125lbs 150lbs and 150lbs and up If we do that what's the differences. We will each have some sorta wolf, some sorta dog, a hyena, a bear, a leopard, and a cougar, maybe a jaguar for the bigger weight classes tbh. Do you see it playing differently?
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Post by Musth on May 24, 2023 7:07:13 GMT
Well I was thinking about this all day. MMA goes up 20lbs or even less. Boxing there is a weight class every 5lbs… I know this isn’t combat sports with humans, but with how many dog breeds and types their are I think we can afford more weight classes. Also 10lbs in the dog world can mean a lot…. However for now we can just start with the basic weight classes(a few). I would break them down in the following:
Atomweight: 15lbs and Under
Flyweight: 25lbs and Under
Bantamweight: 40lbs and Under
Lightweight: 65lbs and Under
Middleweight: 85lbs and Under
Light Heavyweight: 105lbs
Heavyweight: 150lbs and Under
Super Heavyweight: 150lbs and Up
For example a 20-22lbs jagdterrier will dominate in its weight class. However will lose and get killed by a 35lbs coyote. A Bullterrier will kill a 35lbs coyote easily as well as a jagd to be honest. A 15lbs Patterdale will also most likely dominate or be a heavy favourite to win its tournament but against a 25lbs honey badger it might be tough but a jagd with a 10lbs advantage would do much better. You get the point.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2023 14:34:15 GMT
Well I was thinking about this all day. MMA goes up 20lbs or even less. Boxing there is a weight class every 5lbs… I know this isn’t combat sports with humans, but with how many dog breeds and types their are I think we can afford more weight classes. Also 10lbs in the dog world can mean a lot…. However for now we can just start with the basic weight classes(a few). I would break them down in the following: Atomweight: 15lbs and Under Flyweight: 25lbs and Under Bantamweight: 40lbs and Under Lightweight: 65lbs and Under Middleweight: 85lbs and Under Light Heavyweight: 105lbs Heavyweight: 150lbs and Under Super Heavyweight: 150lbs and Up For example a 20-22lbs jagdterrier will dominate in its weight class. However will lose and get killed by a 35lbs coyote. A Bullterrier will kill a 35lbs coyote easily as well as a jagd to be honest. A 15lbs Patterdale will also most likely dominate or be a heavy favourite to win its tournament but against a 25lbs honey badger it might be tough but a jagd with a 10lbs advantage would do much better. You get the point. <style type="text/css"></style><style type="text/css">[class^="adjust-smart-banner"]{display:none !important;}a[href^="http://www.mobi24.net/"]{display:none !important;}#gravity-stories-1{display:none !important;}a[href^="https://www.mobi24.net/"]{display:none !important;}#ad1{display:none !important;}[id^="ad-"], #remove_ads_link{display:none !important;}amp-app-banner{display:none !important;}[class*="NotificationsBell__notificationsWrapper-"]{display:none !important;}</style> Maybe. But bears, cats, primates, snakes, crocodiles etc are being held back from reaching their full potential at these sizes. I guess the dogs have to be able to stay in the tournament until the last weight division somehow but still.
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Post by Hardcastle on May 24, 2023 15:27:09 GMT
Well I was thinking about this all day. MMA goes up 20lbs or even less. Boxing there is a weight class every 5lbs… I know this isn’t combat sports with humans, but with how many dog breeds and types their are I think we can afford more weight classes. Also 10lbs in the dog world can mean a lot…. However for now we can just start with the basic weight classes(a few). I would break them down in the following: Atomweight: 15lbs and Under Flyweight: 25lbs and Under Bantamweight: 40lbs and Under Lightweight: 65lbs and Under Middleweight: 85lbs and Under Light Heavyweight: 105lbs Heavyweight: 150lbs and Under Super Heavyweight: 150lbs and Up For example a 20-22lbs jagdterrier will dominate in its weight class. However will lose and get killed by a 35lbs coyote. A Bullterrier will kill a 35lbs coyote easily as well as a jagd to be honest. A 15lbs Patterdale will also most likely dominate or be a heavy favourite to win its tournament but against a 25lbs honey badger it might be tough but a jagd with a 10lbs advantage would do much better. You get the point. Yeah these are really perfect weight classes for dogs. Kind of exactly where the different dog sizes change and level up to a different thing. I guess cats and bears have barely even started to get serious at those weights, so I could see why those weight classes wouldn't work for a "general" animal tournament, but just as a "wild animals vs dogs" tournament they are spot on exactly right. For a general animal/predator tournament you'd probably go something like - Strawweight - 25 lbs Flyweight - 60 lbs Bantamweight - 100 lbs Featherweight - 150 lbs Lightweight - 200 lbs Welterweight - 250 lbs Middleweight - 300 lbs Light Heavyweight - 400 lbs Heavyweight - 500 lbs Super heavy - 500 + Or something like that. As a dog guy I prefer Musth's though. Those are each compelling classes.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2023 15:29:12 GMT
Well I was thinking about this all day. MMA goes up 20lbs or even less. Boxing there is a weight class every 5lbs… I know this isn’t combat sports with humans, but with how many dog breeds and types their are I think we can afford more weight classes. Also 10lbs in the dog world can mean a lot…. However for now we can just start with the basic weight classes(a few). I would break them down in the following: Atomweight: 15lbs and Under Flyweight: 25lbs and Under Bantamweight: 40lbs and Under Lightweight: 65lbs and Under Middleweight: 85lbs and Under Light Heavyweight: 105lbs Heavyweight: 150lbs and Under Super Heavyweight: 150lbs and Up For example a 20-22lbs jagdterrier will dominate in its weight class. However will lose and get killed by a 35lbs coyote. A Bullterrier will kill a 35lbs coyote easily as well as a jagd to be honest. A 15lbs Patterdale will also most likely dominate or be a heavy favourite to win its tournament but against a 25lbs honey badger it might be tough but a jagd with a 10lbs advantage would do much better. You get the point. Yeah these are really perfect weight classes for dogs. Kind of exactly where the different dog sizes change and level up to a different thing. I guess cats and bears have barely even started to get serious at those weights, so I could see why those weight classes wouldn't work for a "general" animal tournament, but just as a "wild animals vs dogs" tournament they are spot on exactly right. For a general animal/predator tournament you'd probably go something like - Strawweight - 25 lbs Flyweight - 60 lbs Bantamweight - 100 lbs Featherweight - 150 lbs Lightweight - 200 lbs Welterweight - 250 lbs Middleweight - 300 lbs Light Heavyweight - 400 lbs Heavyweight - 500 lbs Super heavy - 500 + Or something like that. As a dog guy I prefer Musth's though. Those are each compelling classes. What I think should happen is, after we've finished this tournament - with heavyweight being 150 pounds. We can start a new tournament where the first division's weight class is above 150 pounds. Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk
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Post by theundertaker45 on May 25, 2023 13:30:40 GMT
Assuming all weigh the same (100lbs)
1. Florida Panther vs Snow Leopard; my pick would be the snow leopard as it would be a mature male at this stage and the panther either a large female or a young male. Experience and muscle maturation/testosterone would matter in this fight I think.
2. Russian Wolf vs Dogo Argentino; I think the Dogo should definitely be able to overpower the wolf if it lands a good grip. Of course the wolf's skull is huge and the teeth are bad and a deadly skull bite could happen but I feel like the Dogo should regularly be able to bulldoze the wolf and take it out.
3. Brown Hyena vs Reticulated Python; I am not that well versed with hyenas in general but I am not sure if the brown hyena would possess the reflexes and refinement in its motions to dodge the python's strike and kill it via exhaustion. For now I regard it as more likely that the python (100lbs would be a large female) gets the opening and just coils around the hyena who could barely defend itself due to limited flexibility in its limbs.
4. Sun bear vs Chimpanzee; out of all I think this is the clearest one so far. The chimp's advantage are its dexterous hands and that's about it. The sun bear has an immense skull with big teeth, huge claws, extremely tough skin and tenaciousness due to having to forage for food the whole day. I don't think it would be ending quickly but I would feel extremely confident in betting that the sun bear could easily wear out the chimp over time without taking any significant damage.
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Post by Bolushi on May 25, 2023 13:57:11 GMT
Assuming all weigh the same (100lbs) 1. Florida Panther vs Snow Leopard; my pick would be the snow leopard as it would be a mature male at this stage and the panther either a large female or a young male. Experience and muscle maturation/testosterone would matter in this fight I think. 2. Russian Wolf vs Dogo Argentino; I think the Dogo should definitely be able to overpower the wolf if it lands a good grip. Of course the wolf's skull is huge and the teeth are bad and a deadly skull bite could happen but I feel like the Dogo should regularly be able to bulldoze the wolf and take it out. 3. Brown Hyena vs Reticulated Python; I am not that well versed with hyenas in general but I am not sure if the brown hyena would possess the reflexes and refinement in its motions to dodge the python's strike and kill it via exhaustion. For now I regard it as more likely that the python (100lbs would be a large female) gets the opening and just coils around the hyena who could barely defend itself due to limited flexibility in its limbs. 4. Sun bear vs Chimpanzee; out of all I think this is the clearest one so far. The chimp's advantage are its dexterous hands and that's about it. The sun bear has an immense skull with big teeth, huge claws, extremely tough skin and tenaciousness due to having to forage for food the whole day. I don't think it would be ending quickly but I would feel extremely confident in betting that the sun bear could easily wear out the chimp over time without taking any significant damage. Agree with every word of this.
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